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Wednesday, October 25, 2017

6/2010--NAZI UFO PHOTOS by Charles Tromblee


NAZI UFO PHOTOS by Ufonalyzer 6/2010



At the beginning of this writeup you can see a few pictures of Nazi UFOs. This writer is always fascinated by these pictures, especially the ones with the SS officers standing around. The big UFO is the Hannebu II and the middle picture has what appears to be a Panzer tank cannon mounted upside down on the hull. There are a lot of these types of pictures around, so the question this writer always had is “Are they real?”

The Ufonalzyer thought it would be informative to obtain the oldest books on Nazi UFOs that he could find and see if there were any pictures in them which would at least take these Nazi UFO photos back into earlier times of pre-Photoshop and pre-personal computer. The authors of these books wrote them at a time when WWII was only 3 decades past, and the authors were staunch believers in the Nazi UFO phenomenon. It was theorized that their research would have been able to uncover some photographic proof and they would have included this proof in their books to support their premise that UFOs are Nazi inventions. Some of their book’s photos may be the very ones that fascinate this writer even today (Author Henry Stevens’ book has one such photo which, as we will see, leaves questions). Books were searched out which were pre IBM PC (intro 1981), pre Apple I (kit) (intro1976), pre Apple II (intro 1977), pre Mircrosoft windows (intro 1983), and pre Adobe Photoshop (intro 1988). Therefore, any Nazi UFO book which was published before 1976 would suffice for this investigation. Of course, if someone had created an old photo of a Nazi UFO before 1976, it would have been either real or a photograph of a physical model of some size or other. The whole process of creating and then photographing a physical fake UFO model would take a lot more work than photoshopping a UFO fake photo. Therefore the reasoning is that if a good Nazi UFO photo with WWII humans in it exists in one of these older books, then that raises the likelihood of Nazi UFOs being a real thing. A couple of more modern books were read also because of two reasons: 1) the scholarship of these more modern books is superior to the older books and 2) Germany’s reunification and the collapse of the USSR in 1991 resulted in a period of openness and a release of WWII records held by East Germany and the former USSR which could have possibly shed more light on Nazi UFO history and possibly provided some photos.
The books for this study are as follows:

The German Saucer Story by Michael X. Barton, 1968

Intercept But Don’t Shoot by Renato Vesco, 1971*

UFO’s: Nazi Secret Weapon by Mattern Friedrich, 1974

German Secret Weapons of World War 2 by I.V. Hogg, 1970

Hitler’s Flying Saucers by Henry Stevens, 2003

Reich of the Black Sun by Joseph Farrell, 2004


About halfway through this project, the Ufonalzyer read Stanton Friedman’s book, Flying Saucers and Science. In it was one of his favorite sayings: “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” (attributed to Carl Sagan.) In other words, just because this project revealed no proof positive that there were Nazi UFOs (whoops, the beans were just spilled), it does not mean that proof does not exist at all and it still might turn up someday. It’s kind of like saying that you can’t prove a negative. When viewed in this light, the project of looking for old Nazi UFO photos appears pretty useless and probably should not have been done. But because it was halfway complete, it was decided to complete the search anyway. This study of the Nazi UFO literature resulted in two conclusions: one was about the UFO photos themselves and the other was about the likelihood of Nazi UFOs existing at all. Needless to say, all but one of the books used in the study took the position that UFOs of that era and beyond were completely of Nazi origin; i.e. the authors like the Nazi Hypothesis and do not believe the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis. The lone exception book allowed that maybe some UFO sightings could be something else other than Nazi.
Here are the results of this study. The results are presented in three parts:

One: The photo results
Two: Short book reviews of the source material used
Three: An overall opinion of the whole Nazi UFO hypothesis

One: The photo results
The photo search did not reveal any photos whatsoever of UFOs during WWII. The closest thing to an actual UFO was a ball of light photographed by the French military. It was a foo fighter photo. The Mattern book showed a photo which purported to be a UFO being serviced by the Germans photographed during WWII, but upon close inspection, wheels were seen on its landing gear. It was clearly a pancake shaped prototype aircraft photographed from the front. The Stevens book (2003) used one of the photos that the Ufonalzyer is trying to investigate, and it is the one shown at the beginning of this writeup with the cannon on the bottom. The author Stevens has the good sense to use the word “alleged” in his presentation of this supposedly 1944 photo. Be reminded that the Stevens book is a modern book, created when there’s quite a few of the fake Nazi UFO photos floating around.
There was, however, an interesting photo in the 2003 Henry Stevens book which might be a very weak “smoking gun.” It is a photo of Stuart Nixon who was once the executive director of NICAP showing a photo undoubtedly excerpted from a Zanesville Ohio photo taken on Nov 13, 1966 which is the third photo at the beginning. On that date, a barber in Zanesville took the two photos shown of a UFO that appears to have a Panzer tank turret with cannon mounted on its underside. He put these photos in the window of his barbershop, but did not try to make any money from them. The book also presents one of the Nazi UFO photos which may be a fake of a UFO with a turret/cannon of a Hannebu type German saucer allegedly taken in 1944. This photo is the second one shown at the beginning of this writeup. It is one of the fascinating ones that is presented so often when present day Nazi UFO writeups occur. Stuart Nixon was high up in NICAP in its period when it was infiltrated by the CIA. Because the photo in Steven's book shows Stuart Nixon presenting this 1966 photo, this means he was showing it in the mid seventies which is before the advent of the quick fake photo technology of the pc era. Unfortunately, Stuart Nixon was very likely one of the many CIA plants in NICAP which ultimately destroyed the organization. In fact , he is even said to have held a press conference in which he presented to the press a whole collection of UFO photos that he claimed were fakes. This photo may have been from that press conference! (But we all know that if a CIA operative presents something as a fake, that may mean that it is real. The organization lies so pathologically that nothing that it says can be believed.) Furthermore, what would a Nazi UFO be doing over Ohio in 1966 anyway? Of course, what is any UFO doing in our skies? Yet, there they are. The author, Mr. Stevens, believes that the 1966 photo is a legitimate German UFOs on a 1966 mission to America from its base in either Antarctica or South America.
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Two: Short Book Reviews of the Source Material


Review of Hitler’s Flying Saucers, by Henry Stevens 2003

This is a very good book with tons of footnotes and persuasive storyline that UFOs are totally earth based, created by Nazis who still have secret facilities here on earth leftover from or developed after WWII. The Ufonalzyer recommends it. One has to get beyond the font that looks like a 1940s typewriter was used to print the book plus numerous proofreading errors and spell checking errors—the content with its underlying research is what sells this book. As you know there is a faction in Ufology who believe totally in UFOs but who believe they are 100% Nazi products, not alien, and the author, Mr. Henry Stevens, is one of those.
From the data furnished by this book, all of the UFOs built by the Nazis through 1943-44 were directly propelled by jets, rockets, or ducted fans. If Nazis developed field propulsion at all, it emerged toward the end of the war. Could this be part of the reason why UFOs never were used or manufactured in a big way during the German war effort? Given the resource shortages of the time, another liquid fuel driven machine would have had to be pretty spectacular to divert those fuels away from the operating needs of the air force, tanks, etc.

Mr. Stevens does believe that the Nazis developed field propulsion for their UFOs until toward the end of the war. His reasons for this belief are as follows:

Reasons for field propulsion according to Stevens:

1. single unnamed witness German pilot saw 3-4 ufos in a hangar located in a remote, primitive facility. No support fuel tanks and washing equipment was around, indicating the UFOs flew not with liquid fuel but something else.
2. an FBI report by a single german witness in 1944 who saw a hovering object whIich could only be powered by field propulsion. The witness came to the FBI years later after he emigrated to America
3. a technical report written immediately after the war which contained information from a German scientist about “rearward impulse propulsion for vehs (vehicles) and aircraft.” This vague reference was according to the author Stevens purposely written in a non-specific manner to avoid undue scrutiny by other people reading the same information.

These reasons are not compelling in the least, as they are dependent on one witness each and one report. Admittedly, it probably takes a fuel driven engine to propel whatever it is that generates the gravity or electromagnetic field of a UFO, but if that type of propulsion were known about in time, it’s a good bet that the authorities in the Nazi hierarchy would have decided to divert the necessary materials and fuels toward this new type of flying machine, as well as the construction funding to build a large fleet. Nuclear fuel could be used also, but the Germans did not have that technology developed in time; it was experimental at best toward the end of the war. Regarding German nuclear development by the end of the war, the majority belief is that the Nazis did not fully understand the danger of nuclear radiation and also how little U235 it takes to make a bomb. This is about the only area in which the US was ahead of them thanks to our immigrant population and thanks to the Nazi disdain for “Jewish physics.” As you will notice later, the book written by Joseph Farrell totally refutes this and claims that the Nazis were very advanced in their quest for the A-Bomb. The Farrell book speculates that Heisenberg was used as a dupe to fool the Allies into believing that the Germans were way behind and on the wrong track in the race for a nuclear bomb.

This book, like many others read in this study, also contains mechanical drawings of UFOs. These are easily faked by just about anyone at any time throughout history, so these will not be given any mention in the rest of this writeup.


Review of UFO’s Nazi Secret Weapon? by Mattern Friedrich, 1974:

This book is a mess. The author, Mattern Friedrich, alias Ernst Zundel, alias Christof Friedrich, has collected a large display of news clippings, diagrams, and photos, almost all from the early 50’s and later, but little to nothing from the period of which he writes. On top of this, his love of Adolph Hitler is almost nauseating as you read the material. But seeing as how this paper is to look for and comment on old published Nazi UFO photos, this book turned out to be a big disappointment in that area too. It has only one photo which purports to be a Nazi UFO with people standing around it. It is a photo which shows the front or rear view of what must be an experimental flat bodied air vehicle with 4 or 5 people standing looking at it. It has the caption, “German U.F.O. being serviced.” It is very similar to that well known front view of the USA’s B1 or stealth bomber that looks so much like a UFO. The big giveaway that Mr. Friedrich’s photo is an airplane is that the landing gear is in the picture, and this landing gear has wheels. Of course, UFO landing gear does not have wheels because UFOs don’t need wheels. This writer showed his wife, who is not into UFOs at all, the photo and asked what could she see wrong about the photo? After 3 seconds, she said "It has wheels on the landing gear." Thus, this photo is of some sort of airplane that does not have hover capability. In summary, this vintage 1974 book does not contain any of the most viewed Nazi ufo photos. It does contain photos of UFO’s in flight and these are post-1950 and later and not even over Germany. None show SS officers standing around.


Review of The German Saucer Story by Michael X. Barton, 1968 by Futura Press, 88pgs.

This book has about 20 pages of photos, none of which is of a photo purporting to be a WWII photo, much less with a Nazi standing by a UFO. At least this author is willing to say that Nazi UFOs are only a part of the whole UFO picture , not 100% as with Henry Stevens, Mattern Friedrich, and Renato Vesco. Like Stevens, this book’s author believes that if Nazi UFOs existed that used field propulsion, they came along late in the game (Stevens believes 1944-45, and Barton believes 1947-1952.) He believes that UFO scientists and designs were taken to South America, probably Argentina, near the end of the Nazi defeat, and the field propulsion stuff was developed by them right after the war in secret labs. He gives little credence to Antarctica. Barton makes the point that those noisy, sometimes smoky UFOs are an entirely different propulsion system than the silent, trailless (no contrail) ones. Barton writes, “I am not claiming, nor need the reader infer, that the world-wide UFO riddle is solved on the basis of German secret devices. Pre-1947 sightings, many which date back to ancient history, make that position untenable.”

The books also brings up a discussion of invisibility which he attributes to something named “the Bateman Principle” about which nothing was found.

This must be a rare book because it was loaned out from the Library of Congress with the restriction that it could be read only at the receiving library and not withdrawn.


Review of Man – Made UFOs 1944-1994 50 Years of Suppression by Renato Vesco and David Hatcher Childress,1994.

This book is mainly Vesco’s book Intercept but Don’t Shoot, 1971 in English, 1969 in Italian, with some additional stuff of low quality added in by David Hatcher Childress at the end and an introduction by a man named William Harbinson. There is also what appears to be an excerpt of a 1982 article about Victor Schauberger in the middle. The local library system’s Vesco book was mysteriously missing, presumably stolen. The 1971 original Vesco book is still available used for about $100. This “padded” version with the extra stuff in it was purchased for $2.50, so you can see why this was the one obtained. Thankfully, this 1994 “Man-Made UFOs … ” book appears to have left Vesco’s original work intact and then had additional material added to it without destroying Vesco’s. This book was skimmed only, not read, due to its emphasis on other Nazi secret weapons and on war history which were not the focus of this research. Vesco’s original had 338 pages in paperback. This book has about 400 pages in a large paperback. The main thing is this: There are many photos, but not a one claiming to be a Nazi UFO. All the photos that included were from the 1950s and beyond. The bibliography goes well beyond 1971 plus there is something about Marconi secret bases in it too. A familiar photo said to be from a French WWII history file of two foo fighters which look like oval lights is in the book from the French WWII History file, and a photo of a Scandanavian “ghost rocket” (1946) also, which looks like a streak in the sky. No photo of a WWII era UFO is shown unless you count the foo fighter light photo. The second main thing about the Vesco portion of the book is that it does not mention the main UFO designers of Germany at all—i.e. no mention of Schauberger, Miethe, etc. There is a 2 page section in the book on Schauberger, but it has obviously been pasted in and written by another author. Also, Vesco does not mention the likelihood of field propulsion in UFO sightings. He prefers to believe that the hovering is due to directed jet engines, and their quick, starts and stops are due to superior airfoil design and control of the “boundary layer” around the UFO to eliminate friction and drag. Control of the boundary layer is also credited to the surface design. Vesco is also a believer that these German UFOs are totally responsible for all UFO sightings. No discussion of South America and Antarctica were found in the Vesco portion of the book, but there are two drawings of Antarctica, apparently inserted by the same source who included all of the other extra material. Many mechanical drawings of UFOs, like engineering design drawings, are in the book but these mean nothing. Vesco’s original book is probably much more readable than this Frankenstein’s monster of a book, which has taken parts from dead copyrights and broke authors and reattached them into a disharmonious mess. However, this book is much more readable than one of Childress’s other creations, The Antigravity Handbook, which is a collection of essays on levitation and antigravity, and is incoherent.


Review of Reich of the Black Sun by Joseph P. Farrell, 2004.

This is a very good book. Very readable. The first 160 pages of its 350 pages present very convincing evidence that Nazi Germany had the A-bomb before the US. It is heavily footnoted and its arguments are based on documented evidence. There was once a special on the Discovery channel (or History) about the race for the bomb. It stated that the reason the US got there first was because Werner Heisenberg’s team made some fundamental bad assumptions about the size of the critical mass necessary for an explosions and about shielding as well. This book directly attacks this and exposes this story as false. When you realize that those Nazis were ahead of the USA in quantum mechanics, aeronautical design, chemistry, heavy armaments, production methods and logistics, and science in general, it becomes easy to go along with the Nazis being equal if not ahead in the nuclear bomb competition. Documents are presented which attempt to prove this. This book even goes so far as to make a convincing argument that the nuclear material required for at least one of the USA’s Japan bombs was obtained from a captured Nazi submarine which was taking it to Japan to aid Japan in its own nuclear bomb program. Our own program was woefully short in providing refined nuclear metal for our bomb making goals so this capture came at a very opportune time to put the USA back on schedule. In fact this book says the Germany did indeed explode at least a test bomb well before the US and that Japan test exploded one as well on about the same day as the Hiroshima (or Nagasaki) explosion. The next 120 pages or so then discusses other weapons that were under development in Germany, many of which were thought to be myths until corroborative evidence came to light upon the reunification of Germany with its subsequent but short lived period of openness with respect to classified documents that occurred then. The last 75 pages attempts to present arguments, pro and con, that the UFOs we’ve experienced since Kenneth Arnold’s sighting are of Nazi origin. The book falls woefully short in this arena, however, because it bases its reasoning on several of the Majestic Documents, most of which specifically used for his reasoning process, but not all, are known to be fakes. You can’t base the majority of your whole “UFO-ET or Nazi?” argument on Majestic documents. Furthermore , he quotes Philip Corso’s book, The Day After Roswell, often in this section of the book. The Ufonalzyer tries to avoid naming and listing phonies in the ufology field, but this guy Corso makes his phony detecting radar go off with very strong signals. Sorry, Corso fans. Incidentally, this opinion on Corso was arrived at years ago and before Stanton Friedman came out with his own skeptical appraisal of Corso. Beyond that, no more will be said. Before this book was ever read, the Ufonalyzer was going to remark in this writeup that it was obvious that the US government was covering up the true extent and progress that the Nazis had made in the area of Ufology. Based on Farrell’s book, the Ufonalyzer now knows that Nazi UFO progress coverup was just part of a larger coverup which includes other scary weapons as well. The purpose of the coverup is to prevent the public from realizing just how close to disaster we all were during the war, so revealing this would make us upset and make our government look bad. But there’s more. Farrell goes on to discuss the Antarctica and South American enclaves of escaped Nazis theory. This information, is also very disquieting because, if true, the enemy was not eradicated and is planning a comeback, so this is included as part of the coverup up as well. He also allows that a captured UFO in the thirties in Italy could have been the impetus for many of Germany’s scientific advancements, especially in the UFO area.

This crashed Italian alien UFO is also documented in one of Timothy Good’s books and pictures of these same documents are offered up as its proof in Farrell’s book, perhaps even copied from Good's book. These documents are all in Italian. Timothy Good’s presentation of this same evidence does provide English translations of these documents, which if not for him could have been spaghetti recipes for all this writer knows. The Reich of the Black Sun’s UFO section also includes a comparison between the Nazi bell (“die Glock”) and the Kecksburg UFO. It discusses field propulsion very little, although it has the almost obligatory section on Schauberger. It appears that Farrell likes Renato Vesco’s idea of boundary layer control and T. Townsend Brown’s electrogravitics as explanations for UFO flight characterics better than he likes antigravity, although he presents a lot of Nick Cook’s findings on early antigravity work and its suppression too. Actually, Farrell does not make a firm choice as to which of these technologies as the favors as the source of hovering flight.

Photos: because this book is so new (2004), its photos were not the direct focus of this writeup. For this book, it is a moot point because it did not have any actual UFO photos, fake or otherwise. Furthermore, only 20% of the book addresses Nazi UFOs.

Update:  The Ufonalzyer read and wrote much of this paper many months ago. The Ufonalzyer’s review of Farrell’s 2004 book was written around early 2010 or late 2009. In early June, 2010, he saw a review by Stanton Friedman of a new 520 page book by Joseph Farrell. Mr. Friedman published the review on 3/30/2010 and the book’s title is Roswell and the Third Reich: The Nazi Connection. In this book, Mr. Farrell attempts to show that the Roswell UFO was in all probability a German UFO. The UFO coverup, contends Mr. Farrell, is due to the fact our government does not want people to know that the Nazis were alive and well after their WWII defeat and subsequently developed a functioning UFO program. The Ufonalzyer believes that if there were such a secret Nazi UFO post WWII program, then the US government would indeed keep it secret because that is exactly what they are doing with their knowledge of other Nazi secret weapons in development at the end of the war. The way we now know about these programs is through the efforts of individual private citizens and not government releases. The Ufonalzyer does not intend to read the new Farrell book because reading new theories about Roswell has now become a waste of time. This is because there might be as many as nine to eleven major theories about Roswell, three of which are lies published by the Air Force while all the rest are versions published by Ufologists. For example, James Carrion has some odd theory about it being a government disinformation program and Nick Redfern has written it may be retarded Japanese or something like that. Now add the Nazi hypothesis by Mr. Farrell to the mix. Yikes! Who has time to read all this white noise? Anyhow, moving onward, Mr. Friedman rejects Farrell’s hypothesis. Friedman points out many inaccuracies and omissions in Farrell’s book, as Farrell attempts to slant the facts toward his hypothesis. The Ufonalyzer also rejects the thesis that Roswell was a German UFO simply based on having read all these books for this paper. More on this in part Three which follows.


Review of German Secret Weapons of World War 2 by I.V. Hogg, 1970

The author, I.V. Hogg (1926-2002), was a master gunner instructor at the Royal Military college of Science in England. The book contains many photographs, but there are no UFO photos whatsoever. He deliberately left out all German WWII aircraft coverage from the book because he felt that this subject was adequately covered in other books. Even though this book is small (80 pages), it covers hundreds of weapons and has many photos. These weapons include rockets, rifles, artillery, fuzes, radar, and submarines. It also mentions the sound cannon. There is no mention in the book of UFOs, Germany’s A-bomb program, or foo fighters. Of course, the Amerika bomber was not covered as it was an aircraft.
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Three: Discussion of Results

There were no sudden revelations of understanding in this study. It was like being a juror in a trial where the evidence from both sides is weighed and a decision made. In this case, the opposing side was the vast amount of material already learned and known about the UFO phenomenon in general.

It is readily apparent from reading these several books that “contamination” has occurred which permeates all Nazi UFO books. What this means is that the few early books on the subject offer little in the way of proof and even evidence for that matter, yet are then used as references over and over in subsequent publications. This gives those publications the appearance of authenticity and scholarship. The same problem was encountered in the Ufonalzyer’s investigation of the Alexander the Great UFO story (published in this blog), where one erroneous publication appeared to have seeded all subsequent references thereafter, including the references made in “Ancient UFO” TV shows.

One big problem that the Ufonalyzer has with a 100% Nazi explanation for UFOs is that there have been hundreds of alien sightings, and most of those were obviously not human either by appearance or by the need for breathing apparatus. The huge variety of shapes and sizes of the machines also works against the Nazi hypothesis. How or why would a relatively small and secret population of post war Nazis create such a large variety of models? They would not. Furthermore, Vallee’s book, Passport to Magonia, 1969, lists 7 sightings from 1908-1929, before there even were Nazis. This is not to mention the numerous glyph and renaissance painting evidence of same from even earlier history. What do we do with all of this? Throw it out? With only a few exceptions the 297 alien sightings which appear on the Ufonalzyer’s spreadsheet located at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aj0F2i1zgohJdEVzNko2YWswUnVTRS0yUDF6OURDalE&hl=en# from 1933-1996 were gathered and investigated by none other than Coral Lorenzen, Jacques Vallee, Gordon Creighton, Timothy Good, and Richard Hall, all of whom are top UFO names in the ufology field. All would think twice before including a sloppily vetted CE3 case in their books

As we now know, there really was an ODESSA organization which survived the war and its purpose was to help escaped Nazis get re-established. There really was extensive Nazi wealth which survived the war and was invested to help the surviving Nazi organization. Were those survivors so smart that they could have created R&D and secret manufacturing organizations so that they could continue to fly around in those wondrous UFO machines? Furthermore, it is convenient to the overall UFO picture to have the Nazi Hypothesis explain a portion of UFO sightings. This is because Nazi UFOs offer convenient explanations for some bothersome facts regarding UFO sightings which are as follows:

a. Helps explain noisy, smoky UFOs; both are indicators of primitive technology (i.e. not field propulsion) in use.
b. Helps explain 1940’s type UFO shapes which are now rarely if ever seen any more, but have now apparently evolved into more sleek designs. If aliens operated these clunker shaped UFOs (e.g. the Adamski trilobular landing gear UFO and other “wedding cake” type shapes) and if they are far ahead of us in technology, one would not expect to see them become more streamlined before our eyes in a single generation. However, these clunker shapes persisted in sightings at least until the late ‘80s, with the Gulf Breeze, Florida UFO being in that category.
c. This could explain why South America has been and continues to be the hotbed of UFO activity.
d. Helps explain the odd 1947 Antarctic expedition by Admiral Byrd and the exploding of 3 A-bombs on and over the alleged Nazi region of Antarctica 12 years later. This has been very effectively rebutted by Colin Summerhayes in his 2006 paper, “Hitler’s Antarctic Base: the Myth and the Reality” which can be read at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/25311/Hitlers-Antarctic-Base-the-Myth-and-the-Reality
e. Helps explain a very few CE3 cases where the observed UFO pilot spoke with a German accent.

Let’s go further with this line of thought. If sufficient Nazis to populate a viable secret organization did escape at the end of the war, and if they did escape with a fortune, then what would they do next? It is this writer’s opinion that they would indeed plot their comeback. They would be smart enough to know that to achieve the level of power that they had before their downfall, they would have to create or takeover a large industrialized country in order to create the army and weaponry to start conquering all over again. They would know that the world would never allow this to happen again, overtly. Plus, it would take too long. So instead of using industrialization and military conquest, they would use their fortune as seed money to gradually assume economic control of several regions of the world, and forget about the military conquest approach. Just think about it. In the fascist form of government, people are allowed to own property and operate businesses and make a profit. But it is the state that is all powerful. The present form of government in China, which espouses to be communist, is really more fascist than communist. Same for present day Russia. Nazism is simply Fascism with a racial bias component and an occult component. What country comes closest today to be a Nazi country? Let’s see. You can own your own business and property. You can make a profit. You are anti-Semitic. You have a strong theocracy form of government which suffices quite well for the occult belief component. Yikes! It’s Iran. Has a secret Nazi organization taken over the likes of Iran? Probably not. It’s just a coincidence of convergent evolution that Iran is so much like Nazi Germany. Has such an organization taken over (or created) the likes of the Bilderberg Group? Maybe.

In the process of reading these Nazi UFO books, it became fairly apparent that the Nazis got farther along than our government wants us to know about. They probably did experiment with disc shaped flying craft. They did other things too. The Amerika bomber was designed exclusively to bomb New York which is something that this writer just learned about a couple of years ago. The German submarines which surrendered a few months after the war allegedly carried cargos which were highly suggestive of a joint effort with Japan for a nuclear bomb or at least a dirty bomb. We have put our government in place to protect us and make our lives better all around. Our government obviously believes that their role also includes the hiding of reality and the suppression of true history so as to prevent the citizens from feeling anxiety and emotional distress. In the case of Nazism, they want us to think that it was virtually obliterated during the war. This goes way too far, because it is mind control and propaganda which are clearly wrong. Rewriting history and hiding the truth does no one any good in the long run.

These books had numerous anecdotal stories about Nazi UFOs having been witnessed during the war. Almost all of these stories had sufficient detail to show that conventional engines and fuel were in use to power the craft. None had sufficient detail to indicate that field propulsion was in use. The very few stories suggestive of field propulsion hang precariously upon single witness testimony. Based on these stories, this writer believes that some of these stories might be true, and that the Nazis did indeed experiment with disc shaped craft. However, it has to be pointed out that the photo survey done as the main theme of this writeup did not find a single photo of even a combustion engine driven hovering disc, much less a field propulsion driven disc. Most of these UFO stories were of little interest to the Ufonalzyer because it is his opinion that the propulsion system is key to being called a UFO. If it acts like it has field propulsion, then it belongs as a UFO, but if it uses ducted fans, rockets, or jets to achieve flight, forget about it. Without field propulsion, it then just becomes another of the myriad of interesting airfoil shapes in the history of airplanes. Just about any shape can be gotten to fly; it’s the propulsion that matters because from that springs the speed, the lack of friction in our atmosphere, the sharp turn and acceleration capability, the hovering, and the infrequent need to refuel, if any.
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